Sorting through the various diet practitioners at Raw Paleo Forum
Raw Paleo Forum is one of the best resources to find healthy people and find out about the variances in their diet practices. Thanks to Craig and Geoff who started the forum and had the vision to include a diverse range of raw paleo diet variations in the forum. The non practitioner would think well, these guys eat raw meat, raw vegs and raw fruit, what kind of variations would there be? Mind you there are a lot. Since there are so few practitioners of raw paleo diet, there is no sense in splintering, but putting them together actually makes sense.
Witness the discussion in a thread about long term zero carbers or pure raw carnivores where they only consume raw meat and water. Paleo Donk has a very nice synthesis of the different raw paleo diet practitioners:
The degree to how “poisonous” carbs are is directly related to how sensitive we are to insulin. At one end we have new borns who must have heavy carb intake and who would function worse without them. At the other end we have diabetics/epileptics who cannot handle carbs and will function optimally as a carnivore. Everyone else falls somewhere in between.
Finding out what is optimal is a different story. We have all heavily convoluted the situation by eating decades worth of garbage that has us in this position. Our bodies do not work like they were intended and each one of has different problems with different methods of eating. Just because one method works for us now does not mean it would work just as well for us as small children with uncompromised systems. Our systems are all compromised in one way or the other.
Tyler seems to get sick at merely the sight of cooked foods, where I can eat cooked meat all day long for months and be in great health. William finds that pemmican is vastly superior than any other food where others have not found this to be so. This what makes the discovery so interesting. We are all so different. We each are all uniquely damaged goods and we all need uniquely different treatments to achieve superior health again. One method for all does not seem to work.
Simply saying that carbs are poisonous is too simplistic and does not take a look at the full spectrum of issues. Tyler, for instance, absolutely needs some carbohydrate intake or his system will fail. Carbs are certainly not poisonous for him, they help him maintain optimal health. Same for many other members of the forum.
I also once thought that eating meat and water would work for everyone if they gave it enough time. This is just not realistic and although just meat and water does work extremely well (and is likely optimal) for many it is not simply the solution for everyone’s problems. This is where ZIOH can get people in trouble, they do not like to investigate anything other than meat and water. They are a bit too one dimensional, although their one dimention works extraordinarily well for some people.
I’ve noticed that ZIOH discussion forums have died down recently and almost come to a complete halt. There is very little new discussion and some members have even expressed their approval of this. When you only look at just meat and water I suppose their is very little to discuss. This is why I enjoy this forum so much is that the discussion is very broad and there is no general answer for everyone. It is multidimensional.
ZIOH is the pure carnivore only diet forum where members eat only meat and water… mostly cooked meat.
In the raw paleo forum, members are inquisitive and experiment and try out the variations and report their results. Paleo Donk satisfied my observation by putting in into nice concise words. Thanks!
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